We live in a world addicted to a dangerous combination of amnesia and exaggeration. Everything is the biggest ever, the greatest of all-time, the event after which nothing else will ever be the same. That kind of hyperbole is of course never true….except for this one time when Jay-Z and Kanye West released an album together. I know we’ve all been blinded by the hype surrounding Watch the Throne, had our retinas singed by WTT’s atomic bomb of a marketing campaign, and so our natural inclination is to turn away, but as music lovers it’d … ...Read the full album review
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We live in a world addicted to a dangerous combination of amnesia and exaggeration. Everything is the biggest ever, the greatest of all-time, the event after which nothing else will ever be the same. That kind of hyperbole is of course never true….except for this one time when Jay-Z and Kanye West released an album together. I know we’ve all been blinded by the hype surrounding Watch the Throne, had our retinas singed by WTT’s atomic bomb of a marketing campaign, and so our natural inclination is to turn away, but as music lovers it’d be a shame if we didn’t pause to recognize the gravity of the moment. Watch the Throne is, literally, the biggest collaborative rap album of all-time. Never before have two rappers with individual sales as prestigious as Jay and Kanye made an album together *, so let’s all just take a deep breath and soak in the moment.
Now that we’re done with all that appreciation for music history bullsh**t we can get down to ripping Watch the Throne apart. That was a joke, but it does speak to very real concerns. We’ve already heard Jay mail in a superstar collaborative album for a paycheck (I’m looking at you Best of Both Worlds) so your suspicion is justified, and we have every right to demand greatness from those who demand to be called great. Ye and Hova get no credit simply for showing up and being famous. Those points needed to be made to try to counteract all of the hype, but now that our critical eye is firmly in place and we’ve vowed not to drink the Kool-Aid, I have to say it: Watch the Throne is actually really good. How good? So good that I’m going to have to bust out an F bomb. Really f**king good.
Above all else one thing struck me about Watch the Throne the first time I heard it: Damn, this feels like a Kanye album with a lot of Jay verses. In large part that’s because WTT sonically sounds like an extension of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy; the densely layered, darkly haunting No Church in the Wild in particular bears all the hallmarks of Ye’s work on MBDTF. While Kanye didn’t entirely produce the album, he did have a hand in crafting nearly every beat, so it’s only natural that his fingerprints are all over this album in a way that Jay’s aren’t. But even on a purely microphone level West often leaves the track’s lasting vocal impression. Let’s go back to the aforementioned No Church in the Wild. While Jay’s verse is technically superior (someone send me a Decoder ring), it’s Kanye’s lushly decaying lines that ring louder, and of course we can’t hear the auto-tuned bridge without thinking “808s!” The two are most evenly matched on the not-as-good-as-I-wish Otis, likely because they trade bars throughout, but from the Beyonce-assisted stadium anthem Lift Off to the slowly pacing New Day, the stage is just slightly more Ye’s. Before I start getting hate mail from rap heads let me be clear – I’m not saying Kanye’s a “better” rapper than Jay, that’s a debate far too large to even touch here. But Watch the Throne does confirm that Ye’s now the bigger star in hip-hop. His personality, his charisma, his….god I don’t want to say it…..swag has grown so astronomically large that he commands the spotlight on every track, even with the almighty Hova sitting next to him.
Besides my “Kanye’s now officially the bigger star” revelation, Watch the Throne sparked one other minor epiphany – I think I prefer my YeHova ignorant, relatively speaking (as Kanye would put it, curses in cursive). Made in America is a genre-bending ode to how far Black people in America have come, and how far they have to go, and we needs more music like Murder to Excellence. I’d like to say that these were the tracks I placed on repeat but honestly? On the real? Really real? It’s Ni**as in Paris and Gotta Have It that I’ve got on repeat. That probably says more about me than Mr. Carter and Mr. West, but I love hip-hop and hip-hop’s always been about the “oh sh*t, he said what?!?” moment that leaves you lunging for the rewind button. To use a metaphor that YeHova would approve of, the Heat may be a better team when they play fundamentally sound, smart basketball, but that’s not why I watch the Heat. I watch the Heat to see Wade throw a full court alley-oop to Lebron that makes me jump off my couch and yell…wait for it…“oh sh*t!” I mean, N**gas in Paris samples Blades of Glory! Who else would have the cojones to sample an obscure Will Ferrell figure skating movie on the biggest collaborative album ever? Oh sh*t.
I could write a small novel breaking down the twists and turns of Watch the Throne, but I know this review is running long even for DJBooth Nation, who are one of the few groups left that actually enjoy reading and thinking, so I’ll wrap things up. If, like Chicago Tribune writer Greg Kot, you’re criticism is that YeHova spend too much time rapping about how amazing they are, the name of the goddamn album is Watch the Throne! What did you expect, humility? And if you find yourself feeling disappointed for reasons you can’t quite articulate, it’s because you’re comparing it to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. (See above. Consciously or not, our first instinct is to compare Watch the Throne to Kanye’s albums, not Jay’s.) The truth is that while far from perfect, I’ll never understand why Kanye insists on putting Swizz Beatz on hooks, this is a more complex and well executed album than the vast majority of anything we’ll get this year. Or put more simply, who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who?
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Total Ratings: 78
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The album is dope, but i think the throne's tendencies to act like average mc's occasionally when they're much better than that is really disappointing sometimes. like on lift off i can't even understand the last half of kanye's verse cause he's just mumbling unimportant lyrics like a club rapper or something, jay does this a little but not as bad. i understand that they probally wanted to aim more of the focus on beyonce's amazing vocals and the dope soul elevating beat but come on that's something that wack rappers like waka flocka do, i just wish they took that song more seriously on their verses because they basically wasted a really incredible hook from beyonce that any other artist wouldve killed to have. but the album is amazing overall especially when the throne tackles cliche concepts but you find it so much more enjoyable than the others because they're so much more gifted, and frank ocean bouts to blow up
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 4 |
Ummm best albumsince my beautiful dark twisted fantasy...Kanye should win a gang of awards because he's the best producer and artist right now and the numbers goign to show next week... :)
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 143 |
hmmm...not the colossal effort i was expecting...i mean this is better than your favorite album...but idk a bit disappointed...feel like the two pillars of hiphop are capable of so much more...
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| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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Thank You Nathan...that's all that I've been trying to say since Monday...now all I have to do is say "just go to djbooth.net and read the review!"
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| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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Tastemaker Total Ratings: 908 |
Jay and 'Ye set out to separate themselves from the rest of the Hip Hop nation. They succeeded. This album really sounds like nothing else out there in the genre, just like MBDTF. Dubstep in Hip Hop can't be new I'm sure, but has it really been done well? Even the four bonus tracks are better than most tracks on people's albums. We had heard two of them, but "Illest Motherf*cker Alive" and "Primetime" are pretty dope too. While I'm randomly jumping around topics, I'll add that the end of "Why I Love You" is clearly dedicated to Sigel/Cons.
And they bring out the best in the people they surrounded themselves with. Swizz has TWO beats on the album and they're easily his best ever. I gotta add I @*#$! love "Murder to Excellence." Before I played it, I thought the track name was silly but then, well, I played it. They actually transitioned from a track dedicated to Black murder to Black excellence without really losing the first topic. Personally, we need a little more social/political Kanye in the midst of Superman Kanye. Damn, that's pro. Oh, and the transition to this track from "Who Gon' Stop Me"? Sick. Favourie tracks: Murder to Excellence, New Day, The Joy, No Church in the Wild, and N*ggas in Paris. 4.5/5 |
| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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Classic? No. But very good worth the wait ain't nobody @*#$! wit them..I agree kanye has the best one liners and I was more excited to hear him on every track just to see go toe to toe wit Jay..good on both parts! Standout tracks are..
Gotta have it Murder to excellence New day No church in the wild Lift off(mainly for Beyonce catchy hook) |
| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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GREAT REVIEW! I agree..people need to stop comparing it to their other solo albums! This is a great collabo album and a great album period.
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| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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excellent album. i was hoping the production would have came harder.. not to say the beats were wack , a good handful were amazing, but there are also those few that snuck into the track-list that were not of the same caliber that brought the album as a whole down. It was entertaining as f*ck to hear jay and ye on the same track for this many songs. I could however, have gone without the overboard money, fine material things that consistently controlled their verses. Ok ok you have more dough than we can dream of. Funny thing is we already know that you dont have to continually remind us on every song. I
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| Posted on Aug 09, 2011 |
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Just got it from iTunes. This might as well be the most original hip-hop album of all time. I absolutely love it ! Kanye and Jay-Z play in a total different league.
They are lyrically great as always, the production is 5 stars (maybe except OTIS and that annoying sample) and they have an amazing chemistry. |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 53 |
It's mid 2011, but The Throne has owned this year. Watch The Throne is a dream come true for long time hip-hop fans who have seen Jay-Z and Kanye grow as artists. I see this album more as a Yeezy album because of Ye's little touch in the production in the majority of the songs. This and Hell the Sequel are two of the best albums this year, but I think Watch The Throne is slightly better in terms of production while it isn't as lyrically eyepopping as the Bad Meets Evil EP. This album is gonna make so much money, from the Jay-Z fans, Kanye fans and the long time hip-hop fans.
Top songs: Murder To Excellence, Ni**as in Paris, Who Gon' Stop Me, Why I Love You and Gotta Have It |
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who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who?
"They sayin' the same rappers are the best Jay-Z and Kanye West maybe they're trying to distract you from the fact that I'm coming back? Or maybe it's cause I ain't black, maybe it's because of that? Maybe cause I'm the highest selling artist in rap?" -Eminem Explains everything. |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Tastemaker Total Ratings: 1345 |
It's not the album that's on point, its the review. Damn, you read my mind, I swear. I 100% agree that Kanye made this album and that he is more relevant than Jay, although I do love Jay-Z as well. As far as the two tracks I have on repeat, it is "Ni**as in Paris" and "Gotta Have It". When I read that part of the review, I felt as if I had written it myself, its so true. The deeper lyrical songs like "Murder to Excellence" are great, but when you sample 3 James Brown tracks in 1 song like the Neptunes did on "Gotta Have It", that sh** cra ("Ni**as In Paris" quote). This album has it's flaws, like the monotonous "Otis", but this is as close to classic as it gets. Personally, I think both of these rappers have created classic albums on their own, so maybe next album from the Throne won't seem as rushed.
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| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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This Is NOT A Near Classic.
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Or put more simply, who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who?
Dunno if you read eminem's relapse review on this site, but the reviewer said clearly that Eminem is best rapper alive. Plus his fans voted him best rapper ever (69% in a poll on Vibe website). So get your facts straight jayz fanboy. |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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I Don't Know Anyone in the streets Who listens to eminem and the streets is talkin they just don't take polls.. my opinion but great album
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| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 10 |
I'm giving it a classic rating, because I honestly can't see us in 15 years talking about this album. Two of the best in the game and they delivered in my opinion.
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| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Honestly, this is exactly what i was saying about the album. couldn't agree more.
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Tastemaker Total Ratings: 1069 |
This effing album is sick and yes...Kanye is the mega star of Hip hop, I cant believe that Jay got outshined and thats not bad because got outshined by his protege. That speaks to how great Jay is.
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| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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didnt enjoy most of this, even after a few listens straight through.
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| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Crew Total Ratings: 2476 |
Just because it got brought up a few times, yes, if anyone's challenging them it's Eminem. His last album sold more than either Jay or Kanye's last album.
I won't hesitate to give him the best rapper alive title, but he's just not the cultural force that Jay and especially Kanye are. The funny thing is that Em's actually shied away from the spotlight much more in the last few years. He used to play the Ye role as hip-hop's lightning rod, saying anything to anyone and challenging the world, but no longer. That was a long way of saying that I stand by my claim. This takes absolutely nothing away from Eminem, but yes, Kanye + Jay-Z are more powerful than Mr. Mathers. |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
Am giving this album a 1 because of this line: "who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who?"
Best Answers: Eminem, Nas, Saigon(Most Underrated), Tech n9ne. Shows the reviewer don't even listen to Hip Hop ! |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
Am giving this album a 1 because of this line: "who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who?"
Best Answers: Eminem, Nas, Saigon(Most Underrated), Tech n9ne. Shows the reviewer don't even listen to Hip Hop ! |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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Tastemaker Total Ratings: 9596 |
This album could've been so much more had Kanye handled 100% of the production work and left the MCing duties to Jay-Z.
Kanye is probably one of the worst MC's out there, Jay on the other hand came correct on just about every song while Kanye floundered about on most tracks That being said there are some quality tracks; production shines throughout most of the album, lyrics could use some work, swizzy needs to die and I cannot express my disappointment with this record through words so i'll leave it at that... Top 3 1. No Church In The Wild 2. Murder to Excellence 3. New Day P.S. Nathan I think you bit into the hype on this review... |
| Posted on Aug 10, 2011 |
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i was so excited for this album but was kinda dissappointed .. its good, but not great. im getting so tired of hearing how good kanye west is but in all honestly he isnt that good: he grunts randomly ALL the time, lyrics are average, flow is okay but overall an average rapper. and everyone talks about how jayz and kanye are the kings of hip hop, what about eminem? hes sold so many more records then them and hes not even considered the king? dont get me wrong i dont like eminem that much but i feel people arent giving him the credit he deserves lately
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| Posted on Aug 11, 2011 |
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Tastemaker Total Ratings: 544 |
I'm not sure if this is really a classic but it damn near comes close to it and I just can't give it 4 stars. Jay and Ye have unreasonably high expectations. If the album doesn't cure cancer or bring world peace then to some poeple they've dropped the ball. But I feel they did a hell of a job with the album and yes they are the two best rappers out.
Also just because Em sells more records and is more successful doesn't make him the best. Popularity doesn't equal talent. Don't get me wrong Em is talented and one of the best but he fell off, his last two albums were far from good. Thanks to that (loyal and bias) white fanbase of his, he's still selling records. |
| Posted on Aug 11, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
@HoamBoy---- Em fell off ??? what about jay ??? Get a grip dude. BP3 was wack, Kingdom come was trash.
Secondly, Em last two albums in terms of Relapse and Recovery or Recovery and Hell: The Sequel ?? The only weak album there is Recovery, because it too mainstream, Relapse is lyrically crazy and am sure u know that. Hell: The Sequel>>>>>WTT. Em>>>>>>Jay+Ye. Btw, What do you mean "(loyal and bias) white fanbase of his" ???? Am black, and its safe to say Em has as much black fans as jay(maybe more). You are the one biased!!!! |
| Posted on Aug 11, 2011 |
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This is far from classic. The lyrics are mediocre, they fell into the trap of doing what EVERYBODY else is doing at the moment. Which they have enough money and power to think outside the box and release an album with lyrical content and depth. I know Jay said "Like the old me, buy my old albums" but I miss the back in the gap Jay as well as the college dropout Kanye. I guess Jay has ran out of things to say. This album is not near classic, no one will be bumping this or jamming it years ahead. This is nothing compared to The Blueprint or Late Registration. Please stop with this weird crap and get back to MUSIC!!!
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 224 |
I thought that this was a great album and a great review by Mr. Nathan. The album is pretty much them bragging about themselves which is kinda predictable. Jay-Z is one of my favorite rappers but I agree with Mr. Nathan when he says that Kanye is definitely the bigger star.
No Church In The Wild (ft. Frank Ocean) - This is a great intro. Frank Ocean just has an amazing voice. I feel that Frank Ocean has the potential to be the next Trey Songz or something. 3/5. Lift Off (ft. Beyonce) - Honestly, I didn't really like this song. Jay had the best verse but Ye's verse was just so much more different. He started "singing" during his verse and it kinda sucked. Hahaha. I think it's great that he didn't use auto tune. Beyonce has an amazing voice but the whole "take it to the moon, take it to the stars" thing was just too cheesy. 2/5. Niggas In Paris - Definitely the best song in the whole album. Jay and Kanye just absolutely went in. Just destroyed this ish. 5/5. Otis (ft. Otis Redding) - Just wasn't really feeling this song. The beat was just really annoying. 2/5. Gotta Have It - Also one of the better songs in the album. Kanye and Jay were just trading verses and it was just great. This song had one of the better verses in the album. 5/5. New Day - Great song. The production was great. A great RZA beat with a little touch from Ye. One of the more "real" songs in this album. 5/5. That's My @*#$! - This song had that old school feel to it. Q-Tip did a good job with the production. Jay and Ye were just great. Their really isn't much I can say about this song. 4/5. Welcome to the Jungle - I feel that Swizz just makes this song one of the worst. Swizz should just leave the vocals to the professionals. 2/5. Who Gon' Stop Me - Just I thought the production just messed up the song. Just not feeling the beat. But Kanye did kill it. 3/5. Murder to Excellence - Also one of the better songs of the album. Swizz Beatz just needs to stick to making beats. Like in this. The acoustic guitar is a great touch. 4/5. Made In America (ft. Frank Ocean) - Sweet Baby Jesus. This was a pretty good song. Frank Ocean's amazing chorus makes me want to listen to this song again. 4/5. Why I Love You (ft. Mr. Hudson) - Just not feeling the hook. It's just a safe song for the radio. 2/5. Pretty much the whole album sounded like a Kanye West album. This album obviously shows that Kanye is the better rapper right now. But the only person who can challenge for the hip-hop throne is Eminem. |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 200 |
Wow Kanye does it again on the production tip. Another amazing body of work, this time with Jay-Z, who is still pretty much lyrically untouchable. I agree with Nathan that Kanye is a more polarizing figure today in hip-hop, making some of his verses more interesting to hear. Very hard to pick favorites on here since there really isn't a bad song on the cd, but there are some that I really can't stop hearing. This along with Kanye's last cd can really stand the test of time, although I do believe Kanye's last solo cd was better (a little).
Top 5 tracks: Who Gon Stop Me, N****s in Paris, Primetime, Murder To Excellence, That's My B***h |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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@Barisua Ngbor
Damn where do I start? Did you even listen to WTT because it seems like all you wanted to talk about was how great Em was. How did Jay fall off when 1/2 of this is his album and it's one of the best albums of the year much better than Hell: The Sequel. Compare Em's first three albums to his lastest (including Hell: TS) and they don't match up. That's why he fell off. While WTT is one of Jay's best releases. Also Kingdom Come was one of the best albums of '06(it's trash really?) Do you really think Em has a hugh black fan base? Maybe bigger than Jay's? GTFOH! Run along with how much your in love with Eminem (that's why you the only one on hear talking about how he's so good). "who’s really challenging Kanye West and Jay-Z for hip-hop’s throne. Seriously. Who? " |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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Eminem fans getting more accounts just to make point is SO LAME. Let's wait for the record sales and see if Hell The Sequel is better than WTT, though I seriously doubt it.
Not an Eminem hater, and I'm white as well, but raping bout' killing and burying your momma and dissing Michael Jackson and other rappers as well is not exactly how an artist should act. Quit on them drugs son ! |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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It's alright...IMO it's overly commercial and I didn't expect much more than that. They corn it up a lot by putting so many singers on the hooks. Not a lot of changes in the music (which is why Murder to Excellence stands out). Not too many cuts and scratches if any. Not much boom bap at all either. I know heads will claim that this is what hip hop is in 2011 but I dispute that. To strip hip hop of its core elements and do it in the name of 'this is what's hot' is just lazy and reactionary to me.
It's a decent effort and I'll try to listen some more. I don't think it's fair to judge albums until you've given them a thorough listen a few times. Still, I got Mega Trife and Termanology's "Anything You Heard About" and Chuuwee and Lee Bannon's "It Was Great Here" as the type of hip hop that I wanna listen to. |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
@HoamBoy----Are u really the resident Dj here ?? Pretty sad.
Ok....I got WTT before you did, i can't bet my life on that, and i've listened to anything on it(Repeatedly). Half of Hov's album is better than Hell: The Sequel. Really ?????. Are u sure u listened to Hell: The Sequel ??? Or you are just a mad Em hater(Your comments makes it crystal clear). OMG !!! You think kingdom come was one of the best of 06. Really ??????? Why am i even arguing with u ? You know nothing.....Continue kissing Jay's ass. Bye !!!! |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
@jasonc
That comment of yours is so childish. |
| Posted on Aug 12, 2011 |
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I agree with this review. I find very small flaws in it (I don't dig Lift Off, I think Swizz needs to STFU, the screaming at the end of Otis is grating, and Murder should've been longer) but they don't detract from my overall love for this project.
Calling anything a classic too early is a sin that denies the importance of time and influence. But, I'm gonna try to predict the future. Hopefully, I won't Miss Cleo this shit. I think this album has so much to offer, lyrically and production-wise (especially production-wise) and I feel this is an album that will be discussed for quite some time. The only REAL criticism I can find is the focus on luxury. If any rappers have the right to discuss such monetary topics, Ye and Jay have first rights, but that doesn't make the topic any less materialistic and repetitive. Still, they talk about it so well and do so always reminding the listener that they didn't start this way. There's poignancy in that. "Cause I'm richer/Richard, and prior/Pryor to this was moving freebase" Nuff said. |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 25 |
OK, I have to say at first I couldn't really get this album after the first few tracks.
MURDER TO EXCELLENCE is one of the most clever songs i have ever heard. This Track just emphasizes the fact that JAY Z is the most clever & witty rapper alive 'Black excellence, opulence, decadence' Do you know who I am, Clarice? No cheap cologne whenever I "shh-shh".LOL MADE IN AMERICA 'hold up, here comes grandma, what’s up yaya? what’s that smell? oh i’m just boiling some agwa'!, haha. Also Kanye West the best producer as of present. Best tracks: Murder to excellence welcome to the jungle Made in america |
| Posted on Aug 13, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 189 |
the only problem i have with this album is that it was exactly what i thought it would be. it was very good, but i knew it would be. the best albums are always the ones that surprise. i knew this would be good, but i wanted it to be classic. i gave it the 5 star rating because 4 doesnt seem like enough...i gave Wiz Khalifa's album a 4, and i needed the 5 on this just to emphasize how good this is.
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 3 |
For those who don't understand the message behind the song...btw BME is nice but nothing more than a punchline-massacre...
Let me break it down.... 1.They purposely made sure they didn't have a single that was radio friendly, its was a statement saying we can make what we want. That's good shit 2. The production takes different style beats from different era's in Hip-Hop history. (Just go listen, that's why they have RZA, Pete Rock, Neptunes, Swizz, Mike Dean, even took the electronica sound that's origins are in Detroit, etc.) The samples alo highlight some our best artists of all time. 3. This album is saying "F" white America. Just listen...Quick track breakdown 1. 'No Church'No explanation needed, talking about not believing in the system 2. 'Lift Off'Interlude track,basically saying get ready for whats next 3. 'Niggas in Paris' This track is talking shit to people who think just because you black in Europe don't mean you can BALL. Just listen to the skit, its a joke at how whites don't really understand what the substance in HIP HOP is really about. 4. 'Otis' just a little flexing over a sample of one of the best AA artists of all time. Who left us way to early. 5. 'Gotta Have it' they get right to the point, F white America. That's why Kanye comes in with 'LOLOLOL White America" Discussing how society hates rich blacks. Just peep the sample. 6. 'New Day' Just some insight on how they are rea people too, who worry about raising they're kids. 7. 'Thats My @*#$!" Jay-Z shines on this talking about how black women aren't given respect as beautiful as they are. 8. 'Welcome To the Jungle' talking your way through the hood. Jay highlights the tricky nature of the hood. 9. 'Who Gon Stop Me' the name says it all. Kanye shouts 'millions of our people lost'. Highlighting the the progress of successful blacks. 10. 'Murder to Excellence' if I have to explain this then you probably haven't heard it, or is totally oblivious to the struggle of blacks in America. 11. 'Made in America' talking about how we have made a name in America as blacks, but we need to build on it. 'we need a million more' 12. 'Why I love you' Jay talking to Beans and the rest of the camp that he feels are disrespectful to him, and other critics of his legacy. *wont break down the bonus tracks, but primetime, the joy, and illest alive should have been given to all..Buy this album!!!!! |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 7 |
haha... i can't believe everybody is getting all antsy about Eminem v Jay and Kanye. It doesn't matter how good Eminem may be, this album is still abso-frign-lutely rock solid. It is one of the best.
For my 2cents, i'm feeling Kanye is getting meaner, ruder and cruder while Jay Z just stays true to lyrical genius. You don't need to shock with confronting concepts if you can blow socks off with good rhymes and times. Having said that I can't split them on the album, they both bring their bit with equal skill and effect. |
| Posted on Aug 13, 2011 |
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I got to breakdown "Otis" because there is an nice concept behind it which I just understood when I read a comment on rapgenius.com
In the first 3 lines sang by Otis Redding from "Trying a Little Tenderness" the pronoun "it" reffered to the tenderness making the relationship better but in this song which is all about Money, Power and Influence which I abbreviate MPI the "it" can be interpreted as making pimpin etc. easier...which goes hand in hand with The Thrones rhyme scheme. In this version the 4th line sang by Otis Redding can be interpreted that now-a-days material things make women happy opposed to the past where the love of an honest man could make a woman happy. The fourth line originally could mean that you should some tenderness & love by squeezing & never leaving her, while in this version it could be reffering to money as a woman...Meaning you should never walk away from money. As Otis fades before gettting chopped & looped Jay-Z ask if it isn't soulfull, however in this case you have to answer it with no, considering the song has no tenderness within it. |
| Posted on Aug 13, 2011 |
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Hype and arrogance created Watch the Throne and stifled the creative revelation it could have been. It would be nice if that could serve as a kind of lesson for the hip hop world, but somehow that seems unlikely.
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| Posted on Aug 16, 2011 |
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The more I listen to WTT, the better it gets.
Favorite tracks: Murder to Excellence No Church in The Wild Ni**as in Paris |
| Posted on Aug 16, 2011 |
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4.5 but I bumped it up to 5 on here cuz I love some Ye and Hov. This isn't as good as My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, but it was def worth the wait and I had to wait even longer cuz I got the actual Deluxe CD and not the iTunes stuff. Lots of good songs, very few ones that are skipped. Great all around CD.
And to everyone talkin about how they think Eminem is the greatest rapper in the game, shut up. Congrats on your opinion. I think Lupe is the best rapper in the game right now, but that's just my opinion and its not gonna make me go around and try to call other pple out about who they think is the best artist in the game. Shut up and enjoy music from 2 of the best artists out there. |
| Posted on Aug 16, 2011 |
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Just give Kanye the crown, he has totally owned the last 12 months in terms of making quality hip hop (maybe not in sales).
This album isnt perfect but I have no doubt it is the best album to be released this year and leaves it competition Hell the Sequel for dead in terms of overall quality (though HTS had some sick tracks on it) Top 5: 1. Niggas In Paris 2. Murder To Excellence 3. Gotta Have It 4. Otis (Tracks definitely grown on me) 5. Made In America 4.5 Sidenote: Im over the Eminem dick riding, he's lucky to be top 5 currently (though Hell The Sequel is a step in the right direction for Em). Relapse was terrible and Recovery was average, neither album came close to his old shit. |
| Posted on Aug 16, 2011 |
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| Posted on Aug 16, 2011 |
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I have to give it 5 stars. Yes, it did sound like a Kanye album with the production and all but that's about it! Great album and yes, who's better than Jay-Z and Kanye right now? Really!
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| Posted on Aug 17, 2011 |
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This was simply.......epic. You can see just by the title itself it was meant as a testament to their already colossal egos, but the production on this was completely solid.
For all the Em fanboys, the only reason Em is considered one of the best is because of his fanboys. This does not take away from his talent, but with his ethnicity, he has the ability to cross the racial barrier, and rack in an immense amount of album sales from wannabe white boys in the 'burbs. Nuff said |
| Posted on Aug 17, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 42 |
FIRE!!!
Cant stop listening to Ni**as in Paris :p |
| Posted on Aug 18, 2011 |
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Dope Album, not quite a classic. Production is on another level. Lyrically a little light thou. Favorite Joints: New Day, Niggas in Paris, Gotta Have It, Otis, That's My @*#$!, Murder to Excellence, Primetime, and The Joy
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| Posted on Aug 19, 2011 |
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| Posted on Aug 19, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 38 |
Jay-Z and Kanye West had the pressure of putting out a classic, and they definitely delivered. They touched a number of topics throughout the album that gave it multiple dimensions for fans of every kind of hip-hop, and the overlying theme of religion, power, and success. Kanye focuses more on himself while Jay-Z relates a lot of the issues to the big picture, but both can connect with the listeners on various levels, which is part of the reason they have both become so successful. But one of the main reasons I like this album is because they are doing something different: different beats, different lyrics and flows, different swag, whatever you wanna call it, they’re moving hip-hop forward in a direction that it hasn’t reached yet. At times, the album seemed kinda separated (but there are little 15 second outros at the end of some songs, so maybe that’s what they wanted, who knows), but it doesn’t do enough to really take away from any of the music itself.
So, what did we get with Watch The Throne? I believe we got exactly what most of us expected: lyricism, really great sounding beats, and two of the greatest hip-hop artists of all-time putting together something that will definitely go down in hip-hop history as a classic. Do yourself a favor and pick up this CD so you can say you were a part of a great moment in music (preferably the physical copy because the artwork is crazy). To Kanye West and Jay-Z, thank you. See my full review at http://www.kyleemina.wordpress.com |
| Posted on Aug 21, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 381 |
Amazing album
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| Posted on Aug 21, 2011 |
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Just brought the album yesterday and as soon as No Church in the Wild started I knew this alum would be amazing. Eminem may sell more records but musically Kanye/Jay are on a whole nother level.
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| Posted on Aug 21, 2011 |
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Pretty good. Some songs are just boring.
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| Posted on Aug 21, 2011 |
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| Posted on Aug 24, 2011 |
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So, it was only right that my first 'album review' would be on 'Watch The Throne'. Let me first say, that ever since 'Ye & Jay announced they was doing an album together, I have been anticipating it ever since. Now, to the review we go. First, 'No Church In The Wild' is phenomenal. Literally. In my perspective, the vivid description of the words and the imagery these two paint on the record is dope. The hook by Frank Ocean and the feature from The Dream, just makes it one of those records that get stuck in your head. And, best believe that this is one of those records that IS stuck in my head. As we go from 'No Church In The Wild', we head to the next record which is 'Lift Off' which is characterized to show how 'Ye & Jay got to where they are now, featuring the phenomenal Beyonce on the hook, which makes it even more inspiring. I'm not going to lie, 'Lift Off' wasn't in my top 5 records of this album. I feel it could have been put together a lot better. But, the overall message of this record did in fact put some impact on me. We head over to 'N*ggas In Paris', and you'll find a dub step type sort of instrumental. I'm not even going to lie, when I first heard the record I was like, "no they did not!" ha ha. But, this record is definitely in my top 5. The fact that Jay (not saying that 'Ye didn't kill it, 'cause he definitely did) rapped the way he did, 'cause knowing Jay, you wouldn't even expect something like this from him. So, you know, like Nathan said, 'Ye had his hands in a lot of this album. But, the record is amazing. But, this review is starting to get out of hand. Overall, the album is phenomenal...no lie, like, it is definitely the type of music we needed. Especially, in times like we're in at the moment. Especially, with the state of Hip Hop. Along with 'N*ggas In Paris' there are other favorites of mines. For example, 'Who Gon Stop Me', 'Murder To Excellence', & 'Made In America' just to name a few. Lyrics on this album, are way out of the ordinary. Something you would expect out of the two. But, at the same time you think like, "what!" and make you rewind and listen again. Lol. My rating of, 'Watch The Throne' would be 5 out of 5.
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| Posted on Aug 25, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Crew Total Ratings: 906 |
The beats are on point but sometimes the lyrics and flow arent what they should be with these two MCs teaming up.
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| Posted on Aug 30, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 15 |
Best song was New Day for me on this one, but there were a lot of stand out tracks.
Otis, Niggas in Paris, Made in America, Why I love you, Welcome to the Jungle, No Church in the Wild. Great cuts. |
| Posted on Aug 30, 2011 |
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| Posted on Aug 30, 2011 |
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I have to give Ye and Jay the benefit of the doubt, because I must say that even though the flow of these two talented artists wasn't that incredible at times, production plays a key part in continuing to give the tracks that classic replay value that you just don't get in today's mainstream music. This is top notch efforts right here, The Throne is one of the best collaboration projects I've heard in quite sometime. I look forward to seeing what these guys will be doing on their future solo projects.
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| Posted on Sep 10, 2011 |
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This is the best album out this year. Jay & Kanye are the best thing going!! J. Cole next!!
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| Posted on Sep 12, 2011 |
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| Posted on Sep 13, 2011 |
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i loove this song. i always turn it up in my car and people always give me funny looks. who cares this whole album is great!!!
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| Posted on Sep 17, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 48 |
Love this album. It's way better than the Carter IV.
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| Posted on Sep 21, 2011 |
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| Posted on Sep 23, 2011 |
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Solid album, could have been better - Lift Off was a huge waste of classic production. Some classics some garbage... Kanye is becoming, if not already is, a better lyricist as Hova.
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| Posted on Sep 24, 2011 |
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great
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| Posted on Sep 29, 2011 |
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This is definitely a Near-Classic album. Once again you hit it right on the head Nate. I took a long time to rate this album because after my first two listens, I wasn't that impressed on the surface. I had to listen to it under different circumstances* to dive deeper into the album and what I found was a lot of creativity. One of my favorite albums of 2011. Good job by both Kanye and Jay-Z.
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| Posted on Oct 10, 2011 |
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DJ Booth Member Total Ratings: 9 |
what an album...all solid tracks on this album
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| Posted on Oct 13, 2011 |
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WATCH THE THRONE=THE GREATEST
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| Posted on Oct 17, 2011 |
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took me a while but i really like this album. what people dont understand is this album is meant to show off lyricsm and tell a story mostly about black people in america. jay-z kills almost every song with his lyrics (ham especially). kanye does gr8 on lyrics and punchlines with nice beats. this album means more than just nice beats so just focus on lyrics.
best songs: niggas in paris, no church in the wild, gotta have it, HAM, murder to excellence, welcome to jungle, new day. the rest r meaningful and otis is wayyy overhyped. its a solid song but dnt get why everyones gon crazy on it. |
| Posted on Oct 22, 2011 |
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wow
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| Posted on Nov 16, 2011 |
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hell naw this is not better than take care its just really over hyped the production is crazy tho but its still no where near take care drake should have gotten a near classic too man!!!!!
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| Posted on Nov 23, 2011 |
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| Posted on Dec 23, 2011 |
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no replay value
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| Posted on Dec 28, 2011 |
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@*#$! it best album i heard since blueprint 3 and late registration also mbdtf
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| Posted on Feb 02, 2012 |
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whos challenging them to the throne...ummmm Nas, Eminem, Slaughterhouse, Dre...are a few pioneers i can think of...Bad Meets Evil to me was way better than Watch the Throne . so yea i'd say Eminem & Royce > Jay & Kanye anyday eventhough i respect every single artists ive mentioned.
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