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Chris Brown - Graffiti

Label: RCA

Production: Big Makk, Keith Thomas & Big Lo, Brian Kennedy & James Fauntleroy, Charlie Bereal, Free School, Jevon Hill, Polow Da Don, Ryan Leslie, Swizz Beatz, Tha Bizness, The Messengers, The Runners

Lead Single: I Can Transform Ya

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As much as we might want to, we can’t completely separate the artist and the person. We didn’t love Tupac just because he made incredible hip-hop, we loved him because of who he was as a man; a thug, a poet, a complex human being who wasn’t afraid to reveal his flaws in his music. Similarly, America didn’t fall head over heels for Chris Brown just because of Forever. No, America adored him because he reminded us of a young MJ or Usher, a teenager on the verge of manhood whose wholesome image and camera … ...Read the full album review

Fans can also check out Chris Brown's previous albums: Chris Brown - Fortune | Chris Brown - F.A.M.E. | Chris Brown - Exclusive


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As much as we might want to, we can’t completely separate the artist and the person. We didn’t love Tupac just because he made incredible hip-hop, we loved him because of who he was as a man; a thug, a poet, a complex human being who wasn’t afraid to reveal his flaws in his music. Similarly, America didn’t fall head over heels for Chris Brown just because of Forever. No, America adored him because he reminded us of a young MJ or Usher, a teenager on the verge of manhood whose wholesome image and camera ready smile made teenage girls everywhere hyperventilate. So while some critics are determined to slam his new album Graffiti based solely on his personal failings, and others are set on reviewing it as if he never brutally assaulted Rihanna, we’re going to have to consider Graffiti both for what is says about Chris Brown as an artist, and as a person.

Deep personal pain can push an artist to tremendous heights. Back to Black was so gripping because you could hear Amy Winehouse’s struggle against drug addiction in every note, and more notably, Rihanna’s Rated R wouldn’t have been as dark and emotionally raw had that painful night in Los Angeles never happened. Disappointingly, Graffiti reveals only that Chris Brown is a shallow and occasionally spiteful young man who seems incapable both of serious introspection and of channeling his personal experiences into music. Brown should have either ignored the assault entirely and simply made enjoyable music, or delved into it deeply (as Rihanna did), but instead Graffiti attempts to do both, and fails twice.

If Brown had gone the “I’m going to ignore the drama and just make music” route Graffiti would sound a lot more like I Can Tranform Ya, the album’s most successful single to date featuring an appropriately robotic beat from Swizzy, decent verses from Wayne and half-sung, half-rapped vocals from Brown. There’s nothing particularly remarkably about Transform, it’s enjoyable and not much more, and that’s perfectly fine. The same goes for Sing Like Me, a more laid back track featuring Brown getting his grown man on over some quasi-Oriental production. Unfortunately, even in the guilty pleasure department Graffiti has some serious stumbles, most notably the incredibly clichéd, swagged-out What I Do and the “please jesus tell me Lupe Fiasco isn’t actually on this travesty” Girlfriend, a terrible track featuring the most annoying production since LOL Smiley Face. Rihanna aside, Graffiti doesn’t have a hit even approaching Kiss Kiss or Wall to Wall on it.   

What stops Graffiti from being simply a forgettable pop/r&b album are those moments when Brown does choose to address Rihanna, either indirectly or directly. The best of this bunch is Crawl, a lush ballad that while lyrically immature in its pleas for forgiveness is easily the album’s best purely musical offering. Brown’s voice lacks the soulfulness needed to make Crawl truly great, a problem that also drags down So Cold. But while songs like these are decent but ultimately shallow attempts at examining his past relationship, unfortunately there are a handful of tracks on Graffiti that are at the least narcissistic and at the most infuriating. The least offensive of these is Famous Girl, a track Brown unwisely seizes as an opportunity to accuse Rihanna of cheating on him first (as if that justifies the assault). Still, I’d take Famous Girl any day over Lucky Me and Fallin Down, two tracks Brown uses to portray himself as a victim, at one point in Lucky Me openly saying “whatever money can buy I got it,” and then moments later earnestly complaining about being forced to go to photo shoots, as if America somehow wants to hear a spoiled, rich superstar complain about how hard he has it. Even if the rest of the album was incredible, which it’s not, Fallin Down and Lucky Me are such egregious mistakes they make Graffiti almost unlistenable. I hope someday he’s doing one of those Save the Children commercials in Africa and Lucky Me comes on in the background, and some little African child kicks him in the shin. It there is a God, this will happen.

Chris Brown doesn’t want or need my advice, but this is my review so he’s getting it. He should have laid low, let the fervor die down and dropped a Rihanna-free Graffiti in the summer. Instead he’s back too soon, and he’s going to pay the price. Brown will always have a hardcore group of urban fans who will stick with him, at least until he completely loses his teen appeal, but the mainstream America that once made him a superstar has left him behind, and on Graffiti he doesn’t give them any reason to come back.

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Nathan S.
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Consider this a pre-emptive strike: If you're planning on writing me hate mail or slamming me in the comments below, and I know some of you are, please at least make it evident that you actually read what I wrote and didn't just look at the rating, press caps lock and start typing. I don't ask for much people.
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Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

joshL
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Damn Nathan S.! lol! u went in on Chris Brown here. i dont think an alubm has ever recieved a worse review in the history of hip hop lol. i havent listened to it yet, but i cant wait to now.

That was some Chelsea Handler ish right there! all you needed was a sh*t load of cuss words and i would believe she actually wrote the review.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Luther_08
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whaaaat :o
this album is sooo good
I.Y.A, Crawl, Sing Like Me, So Cold, I Love You, Movie, Transform Ya, Lucky Me, Wait omg its amazing.
think u need to drop the Rihanna thing now


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

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Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

viciuzurban
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terrible review. And at times pointless. I think you are being unduly harsh for no reason. It sounds like you have already jumped to conclusions and tagged along with the views of others who have condemned this album rather than put forward your own view. after reading all of it, you seem to trangressing on your views a lot. You seem to hold him to a higher standard and yet you tear him down and then advocate that there is nothing that meets the marks of Kiss Kiss – i mean cmon consistency? chris is not rihanna and it is imperative to learn to differentiate between the two. people deal with these crises events in different ways. To expect a man to divulge his feelings (like a woman) in a highly publicised but private manner is a difficult task. A little credit there. As far as I am concerned the law has intervened and he has been reprimanded with 5 years probation along with the bells and whistles– we shouldn’t continue to bring him down because we are spiteful, if only we were in his shoes – what lessons would we learn and how would we react.

personally i think this is a good album and the balance is measured right in terms of metaphorically speaking about the event and the uptempo tracks. sure, its nothing short of great but there are several tracks which i am impressed with. That being ‘lucky me”, which is actually my favourite track, something a lot of guys would relate to, that whole me against the world mentality. Take the riches and the fame with a grain of salt. the ‘disturbia’ mention in famous girl is interesting, i had to rewind that one a few times.

what erks me, though, with several of the tracks is the cartoonish and jumpy phrasings often technicolour like chameleon that emanates from the material – the ay ays– totally unnecessary , annoying and at times confuse listeners as to whether he is genuine or taking the micky out of you. perhaps its a feature of the whole Graffiti concept? Playfulness? It makes sense that they make music that cartoons make?


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Nathan S.
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@viciuzurban First off, thanks for the thoughtful response. Appreciate it.

Second, I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say, "You seem to hold him to a higher standard and yet you tear him down and then advocate that there is nothing that meets the marks of Kiss Kiss – i mean cmon consistency?"

I'm not sure what you mean. What inconsistency? Do you think there's a track on here that will be a hit like Kiss Kiss or Wall to Wall?

Third, you can relate to Lucky Me? Really? You have a jet, fly around the world and f**k every woman you meet, but no one understands how hard it is to be in the spotlight like you are all the time? You can relate to that? Well then you're a much richer, more famous man than me.

Love the debate so far people. Let's keep it going.
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Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Thizzordie
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very weak album for a rnb star


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Seville
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@ nathan, honestly the album lives up to the title. i mean Graffiti? its a lighter form of art with less seriousness to it so the album is gonna live up to that feeling. Not go in depth about rihanna or whatever. otherwise it would have been called Portrait. Just like Tony Yayo at the BET and MTV awards Brown is in a lose lose situation, so we all might as well wait til the next album before holding brown back up to his high standards


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

viciuzurban
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First off, if, we readers, are all going to be reading your review, it is common courtesy that you read ours also. not just sound bites. You totally missed my point on “Lucky Me” hence your sarcastic response above. Please re-read. If you take that track literally word for word for what it says, then yes, I can understand how you can come up with views on that front. But, for me, I don’t see it like that. My whole take on that track is this – when you are damaged and facing adversity, regardless of the nature, and you are called upon to do something that you don’t want to, it is only human that you don’t want to but somehow you muster the strength not only to do so but because things will get better eventually in the end – brown alludes to the “bigger show”, the whole controversy – fame, money and money pale in comparison – that is the feeling I was alluding to - it is irrelevant whether you are a star or some guy off the street, you are not immune to this feeling of it being you against the world, the whole weight on your shoulders. We face these hurdles on a daily basis.

I am not going to run a commentary on what is a hit or not, I will leave that up to you and others to decide. Frankly, a hit such as Kiss Kiss in this environment has passed us all by.

As far as inconsistency, let me answer a question with a question. Are you a fan of Brown? Because you appear from the outset that you are but for some reason which I cannot grasp, this review is highly unfavourable for no reason? Where’s a little hint of objectivity here? There are too many unresolved tensions in this piece. He’s damned if he does and he’s damned if he doesn’t. If he talks about the album, he’s wrong for doing so but that is the very benchmark you hold it against because you state in your piece that without those tracks the whole album would be forgettable? Is this correct?


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Co-Sign3
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I would like to think that I only judge the music, nothing else ...i mean i was still bumpin R. Kelly when his whole drama went down!

I enjoyed this album, however it was perhaps a bit too long...the australian edition i bought has 20 tracks! 20 tracks means there is room misteps like the horrible Girlfriend (WHY WHY WHY would lupe agree to appear on such crap?!?!), Take My Time, Brown Skin Girl and Pass Out. also the fact that the whole album is clearly auto-tuned makes it kind of annoying at some points

Sing Like Me, Crawl, So Glad, For Your Love, Falling Down & transform Ya are the best tracks on the album. If more tracks of this standard were on here, maybe his music could have a chance at defusing his already career destroying situation.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Co-Sign3
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Forgot 2 rate :D


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

gl_on_the_moon33
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If u judge it before u listen, then u'll give it 2 stars.

i personally am disappointed in u guys for judging the album before u actually listened to it. were u expecting him to go into the incident with rihanna? or move on? because i think what chris did with this album is brilliant and it's unfortunate u can't see that too.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

u0dcameron
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Completely agree with this review this album was BAD. Nathan was spot on in my opinion I still can't get over that lupe track I was listening to this and thinking is this really Lupe... this can't be Lupe... he wouldn't dare be featured on something as bad as this... big disappointment.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

u0dcameron
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Also just wanted to say

I understand what Nathan's saying there ARE hits on this album, Crawl Sing Like me, and Transform ya are GOOD tracks those 3 tracks alone on ANY other young R & B artist alone would elicit a minimum 3 rating. But this is Chris Brown we're talking about here folks... someone who had the potential to be the new face of R & B, step in for Kellz and Usher Chris Brown fails miserably.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Guest
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this album is really good and so much better than rihanna's rated r.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Guest
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Several months ago, someone did a poll of Chris Brown's and Rihanna's target audience, asking them what they thought of the situation. The overwhelming majority said that they were tired of hearing it, and they just wanted new music. Let me say it again. This poll came out MONTHS ago. I think both Rihanna and Brown knew that they couldn't just wait it out. People get bored very easily.

I wonder what Nathan's rating would be if the incident never happened. I'm guessing 3.5 stars. Am I close?

This is clearly an enjoyable album. I enjoyed it. It's fun to listen to. Remember, Brown is what, 20 years old? He's still a kid. Yet, his voice sounds a lot better than it did just a couple of years ago. I think he's progressing a lot. I think he does a pretty good job with the different styles, evident with Pass Out, a song I KNEW I wouldn't like from the first couple of seconds, but ended up enjoying. I will agree though that the bonus tracks are all bad, especially Girlfriend.

People want music. Rihanna gave em a darker album. Breezy I think took the best route, especially for his target audience of young people, who are tired of hearing about the incident, and NOT towards critics, who are critical and don't easily forget. People want to enjoy themselves, and Breezy did a great job.At least 4 stars.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

lil_evo_boi_ajs
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what about what i do, thats a song which is just fire like wall to wall and kiss kiss.....plies goes hard on that track


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Jor-El
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Emotional or not, Rihanna's music is garbage compared to Graffiti, people need to stop bringing up the past and just listen to the music


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

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Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Nathan S.
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Love the discussion, and I'm determined to answer as many comments as possible. So here we go.

@donjonjon - You bring up as essential point. Putting Rihanna completely aside, this just isn't a very good album, it's certainly not in the same league as Exclusive. Based solely on the music, I'd give it 3, maybe 3.5 stars tops.

@Seville - As I said in the review, I agree that if Brown had made a light, fun album (as he probably should have) it'd be a whole different discussion, but he choose to seriously address the Rihanna situation throughout the album,which means we can't just look at Graffiti completely as light fun.

@viciuzurban I'll try to address your two larger points. First, I was a fan of Brown. But I've been highly disappointed first by the assault and more importantly with the way he's handled himself in the aftermath. Second, he disappointed me on a musical level. Brown was a guilty pleasure for me, I played Kiss Kiss like it was crack, but there's nothing on here nearly good enough to make me say "you know what, this is just so damn good I've got no choice but to overlook his personal like and enjoy it," like I think we've all done with R. Kelly.

Second, I do think we all can relate to the "me against the world" feeling, but the way Brown delivers that sentiment, openly bragging about his riches and fame one minute, and then complaining about it the next, just makes me feel more disconnected from him. You'd be hard pressed to find one person in the world who wouldn't change places with Brown in a second, and I refuse to feel sorry for someone in that privileged position, particularly when they seem so ungrateful for their privilege.

Keep it coming!
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Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

brettsn7069
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first off i want to say there are plenty of amazing songs on this cd.... sing like me, fallin down, wait, graffiti, etc. I personally believe that the review was terrible and needless to say cliche... i expected the review for this album to be bad because everyone is going against chris.... if u found this album bad that just means ur professional opinion of music was overshadowed by ur personal opinion of the artist im tired of hearing that chris isnt expressing his feelings on the whole rihanna B.S. lets not forget that although he is a superstar he is still a MALE any male would know that suppressing our feelings is how we cope wit our problems..... This album is just as good if not better than his previous two only difference between this one and the other two is his reputation now compared to then

If your reading this and u dislike chris brown... grow up... everyone makes mistakes, his was big but just a mistake

The Lupe track did suck though... but Lupe sucks now and i say that as a big fan of lupes first two albums


Ill be sure to cop this album u should too


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

connorgiggs2
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The album was ok, it was certainly better than Rihannas latest attempt.

There are some good songs on here, crawl, pass out, but altogether i thought the best verse on the whole album was Lil Waynes verse in 'I Can Transform You'

I thought it would be better ..


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

joshL
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not only was this album as bad as Nathan S. said it was, it was probably worse. i thought he was goin to come back big and win everyone back. guess not. i must say tho, that "Crawl" and "Sing Like Me" are two great songs. they are also the only songs i like on the entire album. jus cuz i i=like them so much, i will give this a 2.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

A.S.I.
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@ Nathan. If you are allowed to critisize someones work then shouldn't we be allowed to criticize yours? You seem a little angry if people don't like your review and theres no need for the sarcastic comments. They are just stating thier opinion, like you do. Music, as you know, can hit a deep spot in many people's hearts and minds. So if it relates to someone don't then judge that they are wrong.

I agree with most of your review. He should have waited longer to release this. If he waited even longer than the summer you suggested, it could have give him time in th studio and would be much more anticpated. I don't see many hit makers but I do hear a lot of good songs like Crawl and Lucky Me.

...But Jesus, Girlfriend was wack.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

mojojoey712
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Like many of the recent r&b heavyweight albums this one also leaves me disappointed. Trey, Mario, Leslie and now Chris Brown... all give me stuff that I can listen to but ultimately leave me with wanting. There are a couple good songs that I can get excited for. It's a shame now though that I have started to question my purchases due to the recent "meh"-ness of these big supposedly revolutionary albums.

@Nathan, lol I don't think I can remember ever seeing a rating that low for an r&b album since I feel you usually give the benefit of the doubt.

Anyways, I thought this was going to be the regain his image album. However, like Nathan said, too soon Mr. Brown, too soon.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

E. Jaffe
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I honestly believe this album was more of a 2.5 but I'm going to take it down a bit for what I think it represents. This album angered me. Why? Exactly as Nathan pointed out: "two tracks Brown uses to portray himself as a victim, at one point in Lucky Me openly saying “whatever money can buy I got it,” and then moments later earnestly complaining about being forced to go to photo shoots, as if America somehow wants to hear a spoiled, rich superstar complain about how hard he has it"

These two tracks are enraging. I can't believe that anyone could put these aside and not realize the complete absurdity of them. Yes, B.I.G. made "Mo Money, Mo Problems" which followed a similar meaning to "Lucky Me" but the essential difference here is that Chris is using the song as an excuse to viciously beat his girlfriend. Instead of apologizing like a real man would do, he insists that the incident is not entirely his fault. This is the lowest of lows.

Rihanna aside, there are definitely moments of inspiration here. "Crawl" may just be my favorite Chris Brown track of all time. Yes, I said it, all time. I Can Transform Ya is enjoyable as well. The issue here is that every other track follows the same formula. Every track is a simple repeat of the one it followed. As a fan of Chris' old material, this album is an epic failure, not even nearing the level of his previous discs.

Teenage girls are going to love this but, as evidenced by the Twilight and Transformers 2 sales, teenage girls tend to, but not always, display atrocious taste in entertainment (Don't get me started on how awful those two movies are. As a published film critic and aspiring-screenwriter, I hold my opinion on films very highly and "Transformers 2" was quite possibly the worst thing to come out of Hollywood since Rob Schnieder's career)

Anyways, this is an OKAY at best album that becomes awful only because it insults the intelligence of the listener. It enraged me. It made me hate Chris Brown as a person. If he had simply come out with an apology rather than make excuses, I could have possibly given this a 3 but, because he pissed me off epically, this is a 1 star review.

(P.S. I'm one of the people who voted on that poll saying I wished the whole situation could be done with. I could care less about Chris' personal life. I separate what he does with his music but when he brings his personal life into the music and so shamelessly makes himself a victim, he is a disgusting person.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

dillon_68
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I actually found this album to be highly enjoyable, It will be on my Christmas wishilst. The tracks that he really shines on are So Cold, Wait, Take My Time, and What It Do.


Posted on Dec 08, 2009    

Champ
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Very good album top to bottom. Like this one a lot more then Exclusive.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Nathan S.
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@A.S.I. I'd like to believe that I encourage people to criticize and discuss my reviews, so I apologize if anyone feels like I went at them personally. I'm a native Bostonian, sarcasm is a second language and I sometimes take it too far.

As anyone who's ever emailed me knows (as long as you're not just swearing at me) I'll always take the time to write back and stand behind what I wrote. Love the discussion so far, let's keep it going.
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Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Dj Freestyle
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I probably like this more than I should because I listened to this after Gucci's album (I failed to find one good song) but graffiti in my opinion is really not that bad. I can see where lyrically at points Nathan could get upset especially on lucky me. But i can see myself myself playing this longer than anything from Rhianna's album which is really what i am comparing this album to. My favorite song is crawl 2nd is I can transform you.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

SJD
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It was everything Chris Brown said it would be in his interviews. The 1st ten tracks had me going crazy fa real. & then it went into these depressing slow songs..unlike Crawl


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

luv101
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u might have said all dis mayb becuz u like dat gurl but i heard da album it has to be da best album dat he has cum out wit i dnt care wat ur reviews says if u like chris u will buy his album cuz its gud its really gud


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Brando
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I thought the album was rather solid but either way - it was a hard review for this as well as Rihanna's album. Problem I had with her's was that she created this whole image of being tough and gangster as if she were a rapper or something when she's as fragile as Tiger Woods' jump off game.

With Brown, you try to ignore his youth and somewhat arrogance towards the situation but I think Famous Girl offended me more because he's basically saying she broke my heart (and then I broke her face) ala Ivan Drago. I was like - wtf?

I appreciate Fallin' Down more because of the flip side of the coin. Yes, we know he messed up but he at least he is in spots remorseful for it and wish everybody would stop dogging him about it. But quite frankly, the album ranged anywhere from a 5 to a 7. I settled for a seven.

There may not be a Kiss Kiss on here, but I bet for damn sure Take My Time will get some spins.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

eb5005
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NATHAN I HATE YOU AND HOPE DJBOOTH CLOSES DOWN

this review was very biased..i know u want to sex rhianna but damn

chris brown album was a 5star album easily


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Nathan S.
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@eb5005 You hate me? It's never a good thing to hold hate in your heart, but I suggest you save your hatred for those who have seriously wronged you, not someone who wrote something you didn't like about a pop/r&b album.
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Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Konlive
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Man, this kid still got and you know chris keep doing what you doing. And @*#$! the critics because this album is way better than rihanna garbarge. This so enjoyable that I will never up on this young man because we all perfect human being, but we learn from our failure.That will only make us great in we are as a person. For example, Nathan I think you're the one who need to take a better look at this album. And I think what you said that it going to hurt him in the long run is absolutely absurd because it prove to make him stronger in long run. Yep!
Furthermore, if all the song that rihanna had on her album is way too dark. And his album is way more listenable than her because he mostly write every song on this which are totally better than her song. That will never bad mouth this kid because we all make mistake at some point of our life. So when you say it will hurt, l think you're making better just like the rolling stone did to his album. Yep!

Ps. Never give up and @*#$! the crtics by keep your head because at the end of the day you are the win. Just by ignore what critics say by you. So go on and talk!!!!!! You only him better. Yep!


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

viciuzurban
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“@viciuzurban I'll try to address your two larger points. First, I was a fan of Brown. But I've been highly disappointed first by the assault and more importantly with the way he's handled himself in the aftermath. Second, he disappointed me on a musical level. Brown was a guilty pleasure for me, I played Kiss Kiss like it was crack, but there's nothing on here nearly good enough to make me say "you know what, this is just so damn good I've got no choice but to overlook his personal like and enjoy it," like I think we've all done with R. Kelly."

It seems a little odd that he is a guilty pleasure for you and yet you hold him to such a high personal standard. I mean if you can overlook R Kelly, then brown is just a walk in the park. A little odd there.

“Second, I do think we all can relate to the "me against the world" feeling, but the way Brown delivers that sentiment, openly bragging about his riches and fame one minute, and then complaining about it the next, just makes me feel more disconnected from him. You'd be hard pressed to find one person in the world who wouldn't change places with Brown in a second, and I refuse to feel sorry for someone in that privileged position, particularly when they seem so ungrateful for their privilege.”

I disagree. I personally think this one of his better performances. I don’t think anyone would want to change places with him considering the odds he is against, well maybe for a second, but to be in his shoes 24/7, I think many will pass on that. I can appreciate you being disconnected from the song but you need to let the song marinate for awhile. Perhaps you are a little jealous (judging by your remarks about wanting to change places with him)? And maybe that is impeding your vision to think laterally. Take for example, the club line – “so exclusive, i don’t have to wait in the line, it’s like the club is mine now – if it only it was that simple – then what im saying is easy to do –” . You see while he may be literally saying these things about money and girls, he reverts back to reality and acknowledges that there is a price that is attached to the “life of being star”– all that glitters ain’t gold type of thing. I have to mention that anyone who would vicariously sing this line doesn’t wish it was the case. I don’t think he is ungrateful, in the final bridge, he mentions – “now i thankful for everything, and im finally becoming a man...now i got a bigger show to do”


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Konlive
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Total Ratings: 97
Rating:  54321
Man, this kid still got and you know chris keep doing what you doing. And @*#$! the critics because this album is way better than rihanna garbarge. This so enjoyable that I will never up on this young man because we all not perfect human being, but we learn from our failure.That will only make us great in we are as a person. For example, Nathan I think you're the one who need to take a better look at this album. And I think what you said that it going to hurt him in the long run is absolutely absurd because it prove to make him stronger in long run. Yep!
Furthermore, if all the song that rihanna had on her album is way too dark. And his album is way more listenable than her because he mostly write every song on this which are totally better than her song. That will never bad mouth this kid because we all make mistake at some point of our life. So when you say it will hurt, l think you're making better just like the rolling stone did to his album. Yep!

Ps. Never give up and @*#$! the crtics by keep your head because at the end of the day you are the win. Just by ignore what critics say by you. So go on and talk!!!!!! You only him better. Yep!


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

HoamBoy
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HoamBoy
Total Ratings: 544
Damn like the whole world went in on Nathan! lol. Not to attack you anymore than you already have been but you did seem bias and held the assault aganist him.

It would of been nice to see Chris handle it like Usher did with his Confessions album. But that dosen't make the album wack. Plenty of great tracks equal or even better to his old songs.

Also like others have said people just wanna hear music esp. that dosen't deal with the assualt(unlike Rated R) so Chris was smart to put fun music out. I don't think Lucky Me is a bad song, we all have good and bad things going on in our lives. Chris is pointing out to some, cough Nathan, that just cause he's rich and famous he can't complain either? I bet some celebs are more miserable than a crackhead! Why else would Britney/Lindsay do drugs/drink so hard if they have so much money(it's to escape cause their sad).

@ Nathan-I don't want it to seem like I'm attacking you. I respect/like your reviews and will continue to read them.

@ eb5005-that's F**ked Up! You should never hate someone just cause you don't see eye to eye. If Nathan justifies his views then a least show him some respect.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Aussie_Pride
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Aussie_Pride
Total Ratings: 1189
Rating:  32121
@DonJonJon - Totally agree

I thought this was the best way to go for Chris on this album. He needed a fun pop album that has the possibility of getting back some of his lost fans as well as gaining some others. Booth users need to remember that Brown's target audience is teenage girls & I think this album suits them to the ground.

I would also like to know what Nathan's rating would of been if the incident with Rihanna never happened, because I felt that this review was way to harsh, while Rated R by Rihanna was reviewed in a very favorable matter. I think some bias crept into Nathan's mind when he listened to both those albums.

In My Opinion Graffiti = Rated R - Both albums have 5 or 6 good tracks, though the rest of those album's just sounded like album fillers, despite this, Graffiti got 2 stars, while Rated R got 4 stars.

I'll still be reading your reviews Nathan, though I didnt agree with this one

3.5


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Konlive
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Total Ratings: 97
Rating:  54321
Never up Chris Brown and this album is nice. Period


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

kennygotsoul
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Total Ratings: 1
Rating:  32121
Ok now this is my thing (and remember this is only an opinion) I honestly believe that everybody listened to the CD expecting to hear an elaboration of his current situation (with rihanna). Mind you the media is biased towards what they want you to believe so "chris brown in the wrong" is the only thing that has been potrayed. And with that in mind, for every person that feeds into that, there's that many more people wh can careless. So his whole album didn't need to be remorseful cuz not everyone gives a F*cc abt the situation. And this only becomes an issue because of his position because in the event that your dad was a musician and he beat your mom you wouldn't expect his next project to be solely about the situation. He's young.. Let him live. But on the MUSIC ALONE, the CD was whatever. I don't think its really in his element but that's courtesy of the ever changing industry because when you're with a label, you no longer own you. So you have to do what's gonna make them money or you have to make the sacrifice to give it al up. So with that being said, the album isn't him. Too many "electro-pop'ish" songs and bad bubble-gum tracks and writing. But as far as him as person, we don't know him nor do we know anything verbadum so its not fair to ever involve him as a person in your decision to rate his music. But again, I do understand this is all opinion so I do respect your honest opinion. Wish more people would do the same thing


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

FredRico
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FredRico
Total Ratings: 1309
Rating:  32121
@viciuzurban: I've been reading your argument with Nathan and you've been always beside the point!!! I want Nathan to have some time to write more reviews, so I'll answer at least one of your unfair "inconsistency remarks". You say: "if you can overlook R Kelly, then brown is just a walk in the park. A little odd there." There's nothing odd. Nathan is talking about MUSIC (quality) and you're talking about personal PREFERENCE and JUDGMENT. What he meant was that there's was not enough QUALITY music to overlook Brown, like we overlook Kells (cuz HE made QUALITY nonetheless: "Imma flirt", "Same girl", "real talk", "best friend", all after his wrong actions). He was not comparing the wrongs they did and how much he likes them.

I'm not sayin Nathan is right and you're wrong (you have a lot of valid arguments). You're just not talking about the same when you questioned him.

PS: I'll come back later with a review, but what people should be going after you for not mentioning Nathan, is "Wait", with a monster guest verse by Game! ;)


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

DJSquintz
DJ Booth Member

 
Total Ratings: 31
Rating:  32121
Ok I had to put something towards this one just want to start off by saying I was not sure what to expect coming into this album since all of the personal struggles with C.B. I must agree with the majority and say I was disappointed that he did that to Rih but at the same time I know he was abused as a child but that still does not make it right. On to the album I liked the whole cd minus about two tracks. I agree with Nathan this was not one of Chris Brown's best cd but it still beats 60% of the other's out there. Few of my favorite tracks are Crawl, So Cold, What I Do, and Wait because Game comes in hard on that track. In closing I in no way judged Chris Brown personally on this album because people mess up and you have to separate music from the person. I mean when R. Kelly was battling all the young girl charges I still listened to his music because he makes good music.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

DJSquintz
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Total Ratings: 31
Rating:  32121
Eb5005: Wow why would you want DJ Booth to close down? They always have the up and coming artist before they get huge and Z brings the heat on interviews. Plain and simple if you don't like the review or hate the site and Nathan that bad that don't view it.


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

eb5005
DJ Booth Member

 
Total Ratings: 17
Rating:  54321
i would like to personally apologize to nathan, my bad bruh i guess it was jus a rational comment

but, im tired of ppl trying to bring this man down over rhianna stupid ass..its prolly her fault she got her ass whooped anyway

i mean aint no exucse for hitting a female but damn,...let it go

second of all ur rated this album jus as low if not lower than them party like a rockstar nighas...u gave birdman/lilwayne/drake album a higher rating..wtf?

we all know this album is damn near classic and deserves more respect..we all make mistakes and cant be held down for long..u cant deny good music

i mean. rick ross was a cop and u gave him a good review on deeper than rap

djbooth wasnt around at the time but, micheal jackson @*#$! some little kids and they still buy his shit..numbers wise he isnt doing MICHEAL JACKSON numbers anymore but still...ppl kinda got over the dumb shit


at the end of the day..its all about the music..we need to stop holding these artist as role models and for what they r..muscians

what if djbooth did get closed down because you were gay or something? would u want that holding u down?


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Fuck Yuhh Shantel
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Total Ratings: 1
Rating:  54321
gangstah bro


Posted on Dec 09, 2009    

Nathan S.
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Nathan S.
Total Ratings: 2476
First off, no need to apologize to me. I wouldn't write about other people for a living if I couldn't take some criticism myself, though I really appreciate everyone's efforts to have an intelligent discussion. Good luck finding that outside DJBooth.

I think the important thing to remember here, and the thing that's been lost in all the media hype, is we're not all kids in an ugly divorce, we don't have to choose sides. It's completely possible to like Rihanna and "Rated R" (which I do), think "Graffiti is a weak album (which I do) and believe that Chris Brown is a talented young man who can be forgiven and whose career is far from over (which I also do). It's actually completely possible to have a nuanced and complex view.

Finally, glad you no longer hate me @eb5005. I don't know what else to tell you, putting Rihanna completely aside, I wasn't feeling the music on this one. I'd take "Exclusive" over "Graffiti" any day, and I think a lot of hardcore Chris Brown fans feel the same way. Looks like we just have differing opinions on that one. Peace.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2009    

Dj Baer
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Dj Baer
Total Ratings: 433
Rating:  43211
I decided to lay off of the review for a little while on this one...just to let it die down a little bit. From what I have found reading a ton of reviews about this album is that all the critics agree in saying this album is just poor (i.e. Rolling Stone gave it 2 1/2 out of 5), while all the fans and people agree that this album was just a little better than that. In fact, on itunes, the album still holds a 4 1/2 star rating. As for me, I'm mixed about this album. I think this is about the same as his last, just a little more compressed. There are tracks which I love, such as Crawl which is up there for my top ten of the year, and then there are tracks that are horrible such as Famous Girl and others. I'm not giving this a Four, I'm giving it a 3.5 Above Average, only because of the good tracks it includes. Do I think it deserves the horrible criticism it's getting, no, but then again, I'm not a professional when it comes to reviewing this stuff.


Posted on Dec 10, 2009    

viciuzurban
DJ Booth Member

 
Total Ratings: 37
Rating:  32121
@FredRico I wasn’t addressing you. In future, when I do, it will be known. Second, I am beside the point? How? Unfair? Not really. But I will endeavour to explain myself to you. But that was not the substantial part of my argument if you bother reading all of it not just what you want to read and can read. The whole review was flawed. We have discovered that Nathan is a fan of Brown so what conclusions can you draw from that in the context of this review?

1. On the issue of R Kelly. It’s simple. And you are totally missing the point. Your whole QUALITY argument fails because of this - What is he? Like 20 years older than Brown. You cannot put them into the same boat when you take into consideration their age differences x20 years of whatever maturity they have gained, stylistic differences and their music output. It is ridiculous. One is halve his age and halve his indiscretions, well not even close. It is ludicrous to hold one out at such a young age and then to overlook a man twice his age with as many indiscretions and mistakes. Don’t get it twisted, I am a long time fan of R Kelly and will happily take him over any day over Brown so this has nothing to do with personal preference and judgment on the part of Brown. I have always said consistently that I look at the albums on the merits and that alone. And will leave the gossip to others. So you’re wrong to come at me like that without understanding my point of view. If Brown was 40 years old then yes maybe we can have this conversation but you are looking at the glass half full. Take things in the totality that they are, not just to snippets to make an irrational argument.


Posted on Dec 10, 2009    

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